Most people here will remember the saying "Kilroy Was Here"

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  1. Capt Kirk

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    Most people here will remember the saying "Kilroy Was H

    THIS MIGHT SOLVE THE MYSTERY: WHO THE HECK WAS KILROY??


    KILROY WAS HERE!


    In 1946 the American Transit Association, through its radio program, "Speak to America," sponsored a nationwide contest to find the REAL Kilroy, offering a prize of a real trolley car to the person who could prove himself to be the genuine article.


    Almost 40 men stepped forward to make that claim, but only James Kilroy from Halifax, Massachusetts had evidence of his identity. Kilroy was a 46-year old shipyard worker during the war. He worked as a checker at the Fore River Shipyard in Quincy. His job was to go around and check on the number of rivets completed. Riveters were on piecework and got paid by the rivet. Kilroy would count a block of rivets and put a check mark in semi-waxed lumber chalk, so the rivets wouldn't be counted twice. When Kilro y went off duty, the riveters would erase the mark. Later on, an off-shift inspector would come through and count the rivets a second time, resulting in double pay for the riveters.


    One day Kilroy's boss called him into his office. The foreman was upset about all the wages being paid to riveters, and asked him to investigate. It was then that he realized what had been going on. The tight spaces he had to crawl in to check the rivets didn't lend themselves to lugging around a paint can and brush, so Kilroy decided to stick with the waxy chalk.


    He continued to put his checkmark on each job he inspected, but added "KILROY WAS HERE" in king-sized letters next to the check, and eventually added the sketch of the chap with the long nose peering over the fence and that became part of the Kilroy message. Once he did that, the riveters stopped trying to wipe away his marks.


    Ordinarily the rivets and chalk marks would have been covered up with paint. With war on, however, ships were leaving the Quincy Yard so fast that there wasn't time to paint them. As a result, Kilroy's inspection "trademark" was seen by thousands of servicemen who boarded the troopships the yard produced.


    His message apparently rang a bell with the servicemen, because they picked it up and spread it all over Europe and the South Pacific. Before the war's end, "Kilroy" had been here, there, and everywhere on the long haul to Berlin and Tokyo.


    To the unfortunate troops outbound in those ships, however, he was a complete mystery; all they knew for sure was that some jerk named Kilroy had "been there first." As a joke, U.S. servicemen began placing the graffiti wherever they landed, claiming it was already there when they arrived. Kilroy became the U.S. super-GI who had always "already been" wherever GIs went. It became a challenge to place the logo in the most unlikely places imaginable (it is said to be atop Mt. Everest, the Statue of Liberty, the underside of the Arch De Triumphe, and even scrawled in the dust on the moon.


    And as the war went on, the legend grew. Underwater demolition teams routinely sneaked ashore on Japanese-held islands in the Pacific to map the terrain for the coming invasions by U.S. troops (and thus, presumably, were the first GI's there). On one occasion, however, they reported seeing enemy troops painting over the Kilroy logo!


    In 1945, an outhouse was built for the exclusive use of Roosevelt!, Stalin, and Churchill at the Potsdam conference. The first person inside was Stalin, who emerged and asked his aide (in Russian), "Who is Kilroy?"


    To help prove his authenticity in 1946, James Kilroy brought along officials from the shipyard and some of the riveters. He won the trolley car, which he gave it to his nine children as a Christmas gift and set it up as a playhouse in the Kilroy front yard in Halifax, Massachusetts.


    So now You Know!
     
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  3. Biita

    Biita Arctic-ally Challenged Forager

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    I've heard that saying, but honestly didn't know what it ment other than someone was there. Now i know!! Thank you that was very intresting. I didn't even know it was war related.
     
  4. toni

    toni Mistress of Garden Junque Staff Member Moderator Plants Contributor

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    I had heard that several years ago but had forgotten it until you brought it up.
    In the early 1980's the picture became popular at the high school my oldest daughter attended, but the kids would put their own name or that of a friend on it.
     
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    Kilroy's been all over Norway too. It was nice to get to read the whole story. Thank you.
     



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  6. mtathome

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    I remember my parents talking about Kilroy. It was quite a legend in their day.
     
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    eileen Resident Taxonomist Staff Member Moderator Plants Contributor

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    I always wondered about where the saying came from - now I know. Thanks CK I love finding things like this out. :stew2:
     
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    Kilroy even travelled South Africa. Gosh CK - you could be a walking encyclopedia. I never knew who and what the story behind Kilroy was. Thanks for the info.
     

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