State Trooper Killed In Pa

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  1. fatbaldguy

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

    We in the USA don't use the military for civil police matters.
     
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    Interesting... Only over here in my country, our police is hopelessly incompetent - And disgustingly corrupted to the very core... Perhaps because most of the people in our police force are the ones who were rejected by the military (be it for one reason or another). And so this is how they start to circle the drain, at the epicenter of which is our "proud & mighty" police force... :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNNvbLD6_eY

    Our military on the other hand is a professional one in every respect. They too however normally do not intrude in a civil matter - Unless called up directly, or in case the matter goes totally out of control. And once they come, everybody better stand back...

    But as far as legalities are concerned, they can either detain someone (for an indefinite period), or simply naturalize someone - All without trail, specially on the grounds of national security. But the power to legally arrest and bring to trail, only belongs to the police. Which is why whenever there is a military action, criminals always run to the police and beg to be arrested. As the military is not in favor of arresting anyone, they just come and solve the matter one day or another.

    Which is why our military has always enjoyed the support of the people, as they get things done very quickly. Cutting through every type of legal, social, or moral obstacle. And no politician has the guts to say anything to them either.

    Now this may be a bit uncomfortable for many in the west, but for us - This kind of system works very well over here. As leaving everything in the hands of our ultra incompetent police, judiciary, and politicians - Would be like an unbearable punishment...
     
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    Well, this fella has not been caught yet. Now he has been sighted 9 miles from my home. Now I will really be watching when I go out to the chickens and they will be done earlier in the evening from now on.

    It's much more populated here so we expect he will be caught soon.
     
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    Still keeping everything crossed that you'll soon be telling us that the man has been arrested Barb. Stay safe.
     



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    We drove through PA this past weekend. I thought it was strange that there was no police patrol at all out on the interstate...until we got home and I read the news... a new sighting of him. I am sure that kept every available well bodied officer close to the search area. We drove through just north of the search area.

    SH, I tried to get pictures for you but traveling along at 70 mph limits the ability to get a decent picture. We had a 10 hour drive and I wasn't stopping for much, but the landscape was just as I mentioned earlier...mountainous countryside. Nothing but trees as far as we could see... up hill and down. No dwellings to be seen. the highway is hewn out of rock mountains. The sides of the road went straight up 50 - 100 feet or more. in between in the median was piles of boulder sized rock formations that were left after building the roads. As soon as one of the boys looks at the computer maybe I can get the few pictures loaded that I did get taken. The boy is home...


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    Yes, that is how it looks in our area. All over the place.

    Next time you come through, wave hard and I'll run out and serve you a quick cup of coffee as you pass. :D

    Lets face it no gardens to visit at the moment.....
     
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    next time Barb. I may even stop instead of having you toss me the cup of coffee... Actually, the next time I will call and come if you'll have me.
     
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    Any Stewbie is welcome......Even you carolyn....LOL
     
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    They caught him on Thursday the 30th. There was a tip to look at a field about 4 miles from here and he was laying in there. They asked him if he was Eric and he said, "yes". He was told to get on his knees and hands behind head and he surrendered. I am really glad. I was watching outside my house into the woods all the time.

    Just in time for the kids to go out for Halloween. That was very good this year.

    They are going for the death penalty. I don't care what he gets as long as he is never in society again.....
     
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    I'm glad that he was captured without any further deaths or injury. And it was good that the kids and parents could enjoy Halloween.
     
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    Thank goodness he was captured. Now everyone can relax and begin to enjoy their lives again.
     
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    Yes, now you can sleep easy. That would be very stressful... every hour looking at attention for the possibility of the situation culminating on your door step.

    We had a situation a few years ago of a neighborhood young man under the influence of drugs...looking for us. No one knows why he was coming here other than he knew our oldest son who didn't live here at the time. People don't always think rationally, thats for sure. Maybe he was just thinking he would be safe here. Who knows? I brought him in and sat him at the table and told him to sit! no one is out to harm you or hurt you, just sit. The situation turned out as okay as it could, but you never know when someone isn't being "normal".
     
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    OK, I too am happy that he is caught. But a few things I still don't understand... I had actually held myself back from saying it out aloud, on that off chance that this person may have had some type of an internet connection - Someone here already mentioned that that he did have a radio. Which is why I did not say a word about how easy it would have been to find him.

    Let me explain now - And this scenario is assuming that he did have a functioning radio with him. All radios have RF oscillators in them, you actually can't receive any radio signal unless you've got a matching pair of that same frequency in your receiver - Yes I'm over simplifying it, but that's the general principle.

    Anyway, that RF oscillator inside a receiver also can be easily detected. Specially in wilderness, where no other sources of RF interference would exist. Take for example this basic circuit:

    http://rookieelectronics.com/sensor-rf- ... -detector/

    The concept is actually so simple, that I myself could have easily made a contraption at the age of 14! So with today's technology and advances in electronics - That person should have been caught (by triangulation) the moment he'd have turned on his radio. I know that the US military also uses this exact method in their electronic warfare - Because these things are actually governed by principles of physics, and so not exactly a secret. Which is why anyone who is a bit technical minded can easily figure it all out...

    So what I am now seriously wondering about is - Why didn't the authorities simply use this idea? That guy really would have been caught in a matter of a few hours! I only kept myself from speaking out here, as I didn't want to take the chance that this person may have some kind of an internet connection too. Or worse, what if he had been secretly watching all this through Waretrop's window - Highly unlikely I know, but still I kept quiet to be on the safe side... But it's the year 2014 for God's sake! So anybody with half a brain and some basic electronic components can do this now! So why are the authorities still living in the dark ages and relying on human information???

    And another thing I just can't wrap my head around - Why did he surrender so easily? As I understood it, he was ready for a very long battle, (for which he must have spent a few years preparing). And he had also killed a uniformed official, something for which he will for sure now get the death penalty. Since he was intelligent enough to make explosives and other dangerous traps, how can he not be smart enough to know this? So by surrendering, he must have known that it's the end of the line for him. So (thinking from his point of view) why not try to shoot his way out until the last bullet?

    Perhaps he surrendered because there was some humanity left in him. But if this was true, then why on Earth did he kill a state trooper in the first place? I doubt if the trooper ever did anything to him personally. So before shooting him in cold blood, didn't he for a moment bother to think that he is actually taking out a man who probably has a family and many friends who love him? So where exactly did his humanity go when he was doing that???

    And those who went up there to arrest him, how naive were they? Didn't they realize how dangerous all this could have been for them? Because this guy now really didn't have anything to lose. As he was looking at the death penalty regardless of the outcome. So what if he (instead of surrendering) suddenly decided to just go out with a bang? Therefore why even go near this guy? If you know where he is, simply vaporize him from a distance!

    However, I am honestly surprised, really, really, really surprised - That he did surrender peacefully, after all the trouble he had caused... And I am in some disbelief also, as this has now clearly shown how ill prepared and poorly trained the authorities are for something like this - Because had God not been on the authority's side, all this would have taken a very ugly turn...
     

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